Tuesday, September 30, 2008
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nnt -
In Japanese, 中国 Chûgoku, apart from the usual meaning of "China" , also designates "the
Western tip of Honshû , comprising Hiroshima, Okayama, Shimane, Tottori, and Yamaguchi
prefectures",
and the expression 中国地方 Chûgoku chihô (Chûgoku region : Hiroshima, Okayama, Shimane,
Tottori, and Yamaguchi prefectures).
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%...9C%B0%E6%96%B9
This is modern Japanese, not classical Chinese in which the expression 中国 first meant 京师
(the capital city ) as in :
Quote:
《诗·民劳》:“惠此中国,以缓四方。”
毛传:“中国,京师也。四方, 诸夏也。
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HashiriKata -
Just to add a bit to what nnt is saying: the character 国 in Japanese has two basic meanings: it
means not only "country" but also "area, region" (国=kuni). So, 中国 simply means "Central
Region", and has nothing to do with "China" (中国).
BTW, it seems that wikipedia (the link) can't be open within China.
nnt -
Here is another one :
http://www.chugoku-navi.jp/, with a map of the region.
This link should work :
http://www.bjfao.gov.cn/newsite/worl...?countryID=233
Quote:
中国地方-鸟取山(鸟取)、岛根县(松江)、罔山县(罔山)、广岛县(�
��岛)、山口县(山口);
Chugoku District-Tottori-ken (Tittori), Shimane-ken (Matsue), Okayama-ken (Okayama).
Hiroshima-ken (Hiroshima), Yamaguchi-ken (Yamaguchi);
It should be noticed that the transcription in 中国 is goku ( euphonic version of koku ), which
is Japanese On reading, and that 国 kuni is Kun reading , also has the meaning of country , along
with the meaning of province/region.
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Monday, September 29, 2008
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xsfer -
Could someone please do me a huge favour and translate the following tattoo for me?
http://i72.imagethrust.com/images/jH...mage/fizz.html
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riprazor -
it could be name or single character with certain meaing.
Chinese will never leave "鸡" on their skin which has a second wellknown meaning
of prostitute.
gougou -
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Chinese will never leave "鸡" on their skin which has a second wellknown meaning
of prostitute.
Ah, you've just created another long-sleeve tourist...
roddy -
Most foreigners meanwhile, will never have 鸡 on their skin for the very good reason it means
'chicken', never mind any other meaning. What's it meant to mean?
skylee -
Zhen Nin (probably transliteration of a western name)
Da De Li (probably transliteration of another western name)
chicken
riprazor -
maybe it's the animal of the chinese lunar year this guy was born.
you know, the 12 animals, chinese Sheng Xiao 生肖.
xsfer -
So what you are saying is that it has no actual meaning in Chinese whatsoever?
Moreso some form of western name translation? What are the exact words that make up the western
translation?
randall_flagg -
or maybe the two are a couple and "ji1" sounds like their last name?
roddy -
Ok, here's my guess:
Janine Dudley. Chicken.
Shadowdh -
Chicken eh...
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Sunday, September 28, 2008
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nnt -
Quote:
even after independence, Vietnamese still regarded themselves as Chinese.The rulers of independent
Vietnam still considered their country a part of China in spite of separate ruling.
There is a slight difference between Chinese emperors' views and Vietnamese emperors' views.(that
is to leave the peoples aside... )
Chinese emperors' always considered Vietnam as part of the CHinese empire, and considered
Vietnamese emperors' title 帝號 as usurped (僭號)
On the other hand, the Vietnamese emperors always call themselves emperors, which in those times
meant a declaration of independance.
Quote:
One emperor of Vietnam thought their country was the southern dynasty while Song Dynasty of China
was the northern dynasty and both belonged to one cultural China.
南國山河南帝居
You misunderstood the real meaning of this sentence: that was a declaration of independance.
An emperor is di4/đế 帝 and second to none, while a king (wang2 / vương 王 ) is subject to
a 帝 .
(That's also why such films' titles as 雍正王朝 is ridiculous : such a film-maker would have
been beheaded 200 years ago and his 3 related families with him )
There is a thread which discussed about relationship between CHinese and Vietnamese languages
(heavy borrowings in vocabulary, fundamental differences in grammar):
http://www. /showthread.php?t=6032
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Zhao Hanqing -
My dear ncao,
I do know Vietnamese don't think themselves Chinese now and there is serious discrimination
against ethnic Chinese in Vietnam.
What I mean is that in the past, a long time after gaining independence from China, the Vietnamese
rulers regarded their country as Zhonghua or Zhongguo. You can find indisputable proof of that in
historical documents of Vietnam. Please read my poster carefully which is in past tense.
Take care!
Zhao Hanqing -
You are truely erudite about history of Vietnam. Yes, Vietnamese emperors called themselves
emperors in their own country behind closed door. When paying tributes to Chinese emperors they
had to call themselves king.
Your remarks about yongzhengwangchao are absolutely correct! I wonder if you are Chinese.
nnt -
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What I mean is that in the past, a long time after gaining independence from China, the Vietnamese
rulers regarded their country as Zhonghua or Zhongguo. You can find indisputable proof of that in
historical documents of Vietnam
.
THis isn't quite true... I would say the opposite.
The 1st declaration of independance(南國山河南帝居) was not enough, so a second one (in
classical Chinese of course ) was issued 400 years later, after the Ming troops were expelled :
惟我大越之國,
Duy ngã Đại Việt chi quốc
實為文獻之邦.
Thực vi văn hiến chi bang.
山川之封域 旣殊,
Sơn xuyên chi phong vực ký thù,
南北之風俗亦異.
Nam Bắc chi phong tục diệc dị.
自趙丁李陳之肇造我國,
Tự Triệu, Đinh, Lý, Trần chi triệu tạo ngã quốc,
與漢唐宋元而各帝 一方.
Dữ Hán, Đường, Tống, Nguyên nhi các đế nhất phương.
Our country, the Đại Việt, is a civilized country. Our rivers and mountains are different,
and our social customs distinct from those of China. Ever since the creation of our country by the
Triệu, Đinh, Lý , Trần dynasties, we have stood as independant empires, in parallel with the
Han, Tang,Song,Yuan in the North.
Zhao Hanqing -
What I said is absolutely true.
Quite a long time after independence the rulers of Vietnam still regarded themselves as part of
China at least in culture. As time went by, they more and more thought their country an
independent one . Even so the rulers still regarded Vietnam as China, or rather another China. The
places where the emperors of Vietnam refer to their country as Zhonghua or Zhongguo are numerous
in the historical documents of Vietnam. Unfortunately I don't have such books at hand, so I can't
quote you. Of course they considered Vietnam an independent Zhongguo different from the real
Zhongguo. If fact the rulers usurped the title of Zhongguo in my opinion. Although they defeated
Ming troops, Vietnam remained a vassal state of Ming dynasty which had to pay tributes to Ming
emperors all duration of Ming dynasty. Of course the Vietnamese rulers only called their country
Zhongguo behind closed door and they dared not do so in presence of Ming emperors.
nnt -
Quote:
What I said is absolutely true.
The places where the emperors of Vietnam refer to their country as Zhonghua or Zhongguo are
numerous in the historical documents of Vietnam. Unfortunately I don't have such books at hand, so
I can't quote you. Of course they considered Vietnam an independent Zhongguo different from the
real Zhongguo.
This is the first time I ever read that the Vietnamese refer to their country , even in private ,
as Zhongguo. They always call their country 南國 Nan2 Guo2/Nam Quốc as opposed to 北國 Bei3
Guo2/Bắc Quốc (China).
中國 Zhongguo/Trung Quốc has always designed CHina (or part of it ) in all Vietnamese
historical documents. This is basic vocabulary (South/Centre/North) , not syntax...As you may have
guessed, I'm Vietnamese.
Zhao Hanqing -
I realize you an ignorant Vietnamese. Read the following passage.
中土之外自称中华的国度不止日本,越南是另外一个例子。安南历朝政权自�
��“中华”、“中国”的事例,也不胜枚举。例如陈朝兴隆八年(1300),英�
��传檄诸将:“汝等坐视主辱,曾不为忧,身尝国耻,曾不为愧。为中国之��
�,侍立夷酋,而无忿心!”大抵是安南僭称中国之始。
但是越南立国,基本上是趁唐末五代十国混乱之机,以边藩自立,大量上层�
��士来自中国内地,所以长期具有“南北朝”的心态,以现代语讲,就是持��
�两个中国”态度。《大越史记本纪陈纪陈艺宗》:“帝尝曰:先朝立国,自
有法度,不遵宋制,盖以南北各帝其国,不相袭也。”就是明证。在这种心�
��下,甚至有时会自居正统,例如《大越史记本纪实录卷一》载1427年黎朝太�
��谕天下曰:“贼在中国,民犹未定,于汝安乎?昔胡氏无道,贼因此而夺��
�国家”云云,明白表示自己是“中国”,而大明则是“贼”。
Are you convinced my dear?
roddy -
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My dear nnt,
I wonder how you have acquired such detailed knowledge!
Quote:
You are truely erudite about history of Vietnam.
Quote:
I wonder if you are Chinese.
Quote:
I realize you an ignorant Vietnamese.
Ah, how the mighty have fallen . . . .
nnt -
:“汝等坐视主辱,曾不为忧,身尝国耻,曾不为愧。为中国之将,侍立夷�
��,而无忿心!”
was not written issued in 1300 but is a distorted exerpt of generalissimo 陳 國 俊 Trần
Quốc Tuấn's famous proclamation to his generals during the anti-Mongol resistance in 1282 .
The exact sentence everybody knows is
Quote:
汝等坐視主辱曾不為憂,身當國耻曾不為愧,為邦國之將侍立夷酋而無憤心
Nhữ đẳng tọa thị chủ nhục nhi bất vi ưu, thân đương quốc sỉ tằng bất
vi quý, vi bang quốc chi tướng thị lập di tù nhi vô phẫn tâm ...
夷酋 designing the Mongol barbarian hords
Quote:
“贼在中国"
I have not checked the sentence, but it's true that tặc 贼 (and synonyms like khấu 寇)is
what the Vietnamese called uninvited guests .
"Tặc" = giặc in Vietnamese, like "giặc Minh" above mentioned ,"giặc Pháp" concerning
French , "giặc Mỹ" concerning some American in some historical occasions
The first declaration of independance used nghịch lỗ "逆 虜"
南 國 山 河 南 帝 居
Nam quốc sơn hà Nam đế cư
截 然 定 分 在 天 書
Tiệt nhiên định phận tại thiên thư.
如 何 逆 虜 來 侵 犯
Như hà nghịch lỗ lai xâm phạm
汝 等 行 看 取 敗 虛
Nhữ đẳng hành khan thủ bại hư.
taken from the Vietnamese reference book written in classical Chinese for the history of Vietnam
from the beginning to the end of the XVIIth century 大越史記全書 Đại Việt Sử Ký
Toàn Thư (History of Dai Viet) published in 1697,(in: "Lý Nhân Tông hoàng đế"
李仁宗皇帝 Bính Thìn (year 丙辰 1076 ) .
The 2nd proclamation of independance can be read here :
http://nom.netnam.vn/HanNom/TuLieu/binhngo.htm
which is also taken from the 大越史記全書 Đại Việt Sử Ký Toàn Thư.
A few exerpts :
Quote:
頃因胡政之煩苛。
至使人心之怨叛。
狂明伺隙,
因以毒我民;
Khoảnh nhân Hồ chính chi phiền hà
chí sử nhân tâm chi oán bạn.
Cuồng Minh tứ khích,
nhân dĩ độc ngã dân.
狂明 Cuồng Minh Silly Ming
Quote:
予奮跡藍山,棲身荒野。
念世讎豈可共戴,
誓逆賊難與俱生。
Dư phấn tích Lam Sơn, thê thân hoang dã.
Niệm thế thù khởi khả cộng đái,
Thệ nghịch tặc nan dữ câu sinh.
etc... Classical Chinese is very rich
To Roddy :
“The Tarpeian Rock is near the Capitol”
But as the Great Master of 10000 generations said :
「 學而時習之, 不亦說乎? 有朋自遠方來,
不亦樂乎?人不知而不慍,不亦君子乎?」
wushijiao -
Quote:
但是越南立国,基本上是趁唐末五代十国混乱之机,以边藩自立,大量上层�
��士来自中国内地,所以长期具有“南北朝”的心态,以现代语讲,就是持��
�两个中国”态度"
What is the source of this? I'm not saying the information is incorrect (because I don't know
enough about it), but it seems like the language is fairly biased. When, by the way, did the term
中国 refering to China come out? I always assumed dynasties where refered to by their names in
ancient Chinese.
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Saturday, September 27, 2008
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chenpv -
Hilarious! I see the page number, Skylee 姐姐, did you take that from a book?
skylee -
A freind sent the jpg files to me.
Yuchi -
These are hilarious, thanks Skylee!
文言訓開班 -
Forgive my ignorance, I'm really only used to HK Cantonese.....I read the first few panels, got a
little confused. Is the joke here that the girl's speaking HK Canto and the cat's speaking Chao
Zhou?
文言訓開班 -
never mind my stupid question. Although I am thrown at the choice of characters for 坐(做) and
话(講). also, 咪 is a little irregular, isn't it?
Mugi -
Quote:
Although I am thrown at the choice of characters for 坐(做) and 话(講). also, 咪 is a little
irregular, isn't it?
They're at a bus stop, so 坐 is correct. 話 can act as a verb in Cantonese. 咪 is a contraction
of 唔係 (係咪 = 是不是). If you don't speak Cantonese, the comic strips are a little
difficult to understand.
Quest -
They both speak Cantonese. The joke here is the Totoro lookalike pretends he doesn't understand
and responds with similar sounding phrases.
文言訓開班 -
I speak some Cantonese, but I'm not a native speaker and am not too used to it. I definitely get
the joke, though I don't know all the words and since I'm not native it doesn't tickle me quite
the same way. I'm actually not Chinese, and so I have not grown up with any Chinese language, so
some of my comprehension problems may be a bit basic.
Essentially, what I don't understand are these:
-"你係咪龙猫" -- if I understand you correctly, you say that she's asking if the cat is
indeed a cat? I thought 咪=咩=乜野.
-"我话" -- is this a verb or a noun? Is it pronounced "ngo wa"? I just assumed it was an easier
way to write 我講. 话,话,话...
-"你係咪耍我" -- if 咪=唔 then this is 'are you joking me', but I thought it was 咩=乜野
for 'what're you trying to pull'. My Chinese really isn't that good....
-I guess on inspection of the second strip, "呢度系咪排队买.." makes more sense if 咪=唔
than if it were 咩....
skylee -
"你係咪龍貓" = "你係唔係龍貓" = "Are you Totoro". When we say "係唔係" real fast, it
sounds like "係咪". "咪=咩=乜野" is wrong. This is 龍貓 / Totoro.
"我話" = "I say". It is pronounced "ngo wa". It is NOT an easier way to WRITE "我講".
"你係咪耍我" = "你係唔係耍我" = "Are you making fun of me". Again here "係咪" =
"係唔係". Same for "呢度系咪排隊", which means " 呢度系唔係排队" .
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got_no_jaffas -
i do still have the link but i will not post it here as it comes from a rather dubious chinese
forum & i think it would degrade the common decency of this forum! hahaha!!
gougou - will pm it to you
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libertango -
I appreciate the fact that you are informing people of the scam.
wushijiao -
If your passport is old and worn out, I think you can apply to get a new passport for free at any
American consulate. I'm 99% sure about that, but give them a call to find out.
roddy -
I'm sorry, but if this is actually happening and your passport is in as bad a state as you make it
sound then
a) You need to inform the consulate so they know what's happening, they will liase with the local
police, and if deemed necessary they'll send out a travel advisory. You are not the only one this
will happen to.
b) IF your passport actually looks 'tampered' with, that's possibly the kind of thing immigration
officials are going to pick up on and you need to get a new passport. Again, consulate. I don't
even want to think about what happens to someone who turns up at US immigration with a dodgy
looking US passport.
If you want to save yourself some richly-deserved embarassment then yeah, tell them it went
'missing' or that they borrowed it for some other, legitimate, purpose.
Roddy
PS. I very rarely say this, but you should also just give up and go home. You're not enjoying
yourself.
necroflux -
I don't know that you can quite tell him that he's not enjoying himself, but he's obviously
ill-equipped to live in China based on his post.. I thought I might be lacking in "street smarts",
but to fall for something like this in a completely foreign country is just ridiculous, let alone
coming to a forum afterwards to ask how he can get even. And to call these guys "chinese business
men"? Clueless.
ask_weasal -
To answer some questions. First of all my friend is on a student visa. They needed a Z visa.
Second of all this guy from America is American and I knew him for 4 years prior and so I trusted
him because he was one of the few people that I hang out with in China AND America. It wasn't him
who actually screwed me over it was the person he gave it to who did that. My former friend speaks
perfect Chinese so most situations he knows what he was doing. Before he actually help me land a
good job. The reason why I am so pissed is because my former friend is not lifting a finger to do
anything about it. It's like he's choosing guanxi over his friend. I want to get them back.
regards,
ran ran
ask_weasal -
And AEON F**K U!
I hate people who talk shit over the net.
Don't be a heckler
be a help if not shut the F**K up.
ran-ran
ask_weasal -
Excuse me sorry for that outburst but some of you obviously are a bit immature. Without knowing
the whole story some of you are quick to judge someone like any of you haven't had bad luck. Why
am I making 3000 yuan a month because I used to make 10'000 a month working at two schools until
one greedy school informed the other that I was working for two schools at the same time so
POOF!!!!! a 7000 yuan job is lost because one school couldn't handle me working for another school
even though they only give me six hours a week. 2005 was a very bad year for me. Everyone has
these in their lives I think. So necroflux or whatever your name is don't talk about me like I am
in the third person. You can at least give me that respect. Have I ever insulted you or Aeon? No
so don't do that to me. This is a constructive website if you are going to talk stupid like that
then lets deconstruct this website by being assholes together, because I won't stop until you stop.
Bottom line
Show Respect...I'm a lot less clueless than you think
necroflux -
I was a bit of a prick, and I apologize for addressing you as a third person. But I think with the
last three posts pretty much serve to reiterate your level of maturity.
Quote:
And AEON F**K U!
I hate people who talk shit over the net.
Don't be a heckler
be a help if not shut the F**K up.
ran-ran
My advice is that you got burned, let it go. Obviously this guy isn't a friend so after perhaps
asking him to compensate you for your loss (unlikely as that may be) I wouldn't ever talk to him
again.
gougou -
Quote:
sorry for that outburst
If you truly are sorry, you can use the edit function to undo that outburst.
In the meantime, I agree that aeon's post was not constructive. So instead of trashing Randall for
something he can't change anymore, we maybe can return to giving him advise what to do about his
passport and help prevent things like this happening in the future. (BTW, third person because I'm
not adressing you, Randall, on this one, as I think was the case with necroflux as well; he seemed
to be replying to roddy)
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Thursday, September 25, 2008
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Zamenhof -
First of all, thank you for your replies.
I find it interesting that 鸟 is an alternative to 屌. My 2300 page dictionary that I mentioned
above, actually says the very same thing. So I guess my dictionary is okay after all. I just
didn't know that I had to look under "diǎo".
Whatever the meaning is in "Shrek", I share Roddy's surprise that such a word would be used in the
translation.
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"鳥",read in this way 'niǎo'.
Quote:
ps:In the sentence above,I guess'鳥' maybe read in this way 'diǎo'.
到底该读成niǎo还是diǎo?
chenpv -
Quote:
到底该读成niǎo还是diǎo?
I second the latter. But in TV series, that character is always pronounced as 'niǎo' to avoid
'vulgarity'.
Lugubert -
According to my dictionary,
鸟(鳥) diăo same as 屌, used in old novels as a term of abuse -- see also niăo
屌 diăo inf. penis
Sophia_Shang -
"Niao" has been used as a informal (and impolite) way between males as a slang more than 1,000
years ago. Li Kui, one of the main characters in the novel Shui Hu Zhuan, has used the word
thousands times. The slang is becoming popular among male college students in recent years. It can
use as an adjective (roughly equals to "damn") or a verb. One should be very careful using it,
especially when ladies are present.
semantic nuance -
鳥 in its slangy usage refers to 'penis' as well as '小弟弟' (literally little brother).
Sometimes we'll use 小鳥 to mean 'penis'. I guess that's why 鳥 and 屌 are related.
Ex: 我才不鳥你呢 ! (I don't give a shit ).
鳥事 shitty thing
Hope it helps!
zxy31412 -
I'm a Chinese, and I'm quite sure that "不鸟" pronounces "bu4diao3" and means "不理,不屑".
It is likely that the word is too rude so that most dictionaries have no such explanation.
weiming -
A couple of searches on baidu seem to reveal the word does indeed have origins in copulation, but
the slang has taken on another meaning as well, probably used by those unaware of its 'dirtier'
connotations.
It seems that it can be used both as 不烦 and 不理. In your movie of course, it is going to
have elements of both of these meanings.
jackie tang -
you are all wrong.你不鸟我,我也不鸟你,the 鸟 is wrong,should be 了,is short name
for the word:了解,means understand,so the sentence means:you don't understand me,and i don't
understand you too.this 了 is pouplar in taiwan some places.
i love this movie,we can disscuss if you guys still have problems
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Saturday, September 6, 2008
Chinese Pinyin - Top 10 "interesting" experiences
CITYLIFE / My Opinion
Top 10 "interesting" experiences
By Chase Warrington (chinadaily.com.cn)
Updated: 2007-07-06 14:36
Beijing is an interesting place to visit, especially as the city gears up
for the Olympics. There are plenty of sights to see, like the Forbidden
City, Tiananmen Square, the Temple of Heaven, the Great Wall, and the
Summer Palace just to name a few.
There is no doubt that next year, when people from around the world
arrive in the Chinese capital, they will be impressed. But what types of
things will shock them? What will westerners, who come to Asia for the
first time, consider rude or socially awkward? What will westerners
experience for the first time in Beijing?
I have created a list, from a westerner's point of view, of the top 10
most "interesting" first experiences in China.
10. People squatting on the side of the street. I still cannot understand
how this is comfortable, because I don't think my knees will support me
in this stance. But the Chinese love to squat, so maybe we should give it
a try.
9. It is quite common to see men standing outside with their shirts
rolled up, exposing their torso. At first sight a westerner might think
this is a joke, but they will soon realize that this is part of everyday
life in Beijing.
8. Dining in China is different for a few reasons, one of which is table
manners. In western countries we are taught to never bring yourself to
your food, but to bring the food to you. In China, it is perfectly
acceptable (or so it seems) to bring the bowl to your mouth to eat. We
may think it is rude in our countries, but when in China, do as the
Chinese do.
7. One thing that has been really difficult to get used to is the fact
that it is okay to spit in public, and let everyone know you are doing it
in the process. Any foreigner who has been here for longer than a day
will tell you that it is somewhat disgusting to hear someone getting
everything in their mouth together so that they can get it out. I'm sure
we have all done it before, but publicly and shamelessly, probably not.
6. Attentive service in China is normal and I have definitely appreciated
it -- in restaurants. When I am out shopping, I don't want to be followed
by a salesperson as I browse the racks. Chinese salespeople think they
need to persuade you to buy something, whereas in a western country they
will provide help when service is requested.
5. Standing in line for a bus, subway, or anything for that matter, can
be exhausting in China. It always seems to be a race to get there first
so don't expect anyone to hold the door for you, or let you go before
them. I think most people coming to China for the first time will adapt
to this quickly, but they may be a little shocked at first.
4. It seems normal in China to spit bones from fish or meat back onto the
table. While eating in a western country it is rarely acceptable to take
food out of your mouth. If something doesn't taste good, sometimes we
will bring a napkin to our mouth (although very discreetly) and spit it
out into the napkin. It may be a little difficult to get used to at
first, but when you think about it, it looks better than putting it back
on your plate.
3. The first time I saw a baby wearing the split bottom pants I thought
it was cute. The first time I saw why they wore the split bottom pants I
was appalled. I was in the Summer Palace and there was a baby beside me
squatting and using the bathroom through the hole. We are used to
diapers, plain and simple.
2. Riding in a cab in China can be stressful enough, so I can't even
begin to imagine driving here. It seems perfectly acceptable to have two
cars in one lane, or to merge into another lane without checking your
blind spot. To me, being able to turn right on a red light means it's
okay if nobody is coming. In China it seems that turning right on a red
means I am turning right and you should yield to me. Where I come from,
if you turn out in front of another car and they have to touch their
brakes, you can get a ticket. I have seen few accidents in China, and
everyone is so aggressive that it is expected from other drivers.
1. And the number one most "interesting" experience in China is using a
squat toilet for the first time. I guess we just figure that sitting is
easier than squatting (although this may be the reason for number 10 on
this list). Westerners arriving in Asia for the first time will have
trouble getting used to this, but when they finally do it, they will
realize that it really isn't that bad.
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Chinese Pinyin - Kids speak universal truths
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CITYLIFE / what's on
Kids speak universal truths
By Qiao Zhengyue (Shanghai Daily)
Updated: 2007-07-05 10:04
Seldom has a fairytale like "Le Petit Prince" captivated so many grown-up
hearts. Now a French musical based on this fable will be staged in town
next month with most of the original cast - and a new prince, this time a
girl.
The musical by composer Richard Cocciante ran at the Casino de Paris from
October 2002 to January 2003 with Canadian singer Daniel Lavoie playing
the pilot.
In the Shanghai production, the pilot-narrator is played by Laurent Ban,
who played the Conceited Man in the original production. He also starred
in the French-language productions of "Les Miserables' and "Phantom of
the Opera."
This time the Little Prince is played by a 19-year-old girl, but
producers are keeping her name and that of her understudy secret until
the last minute.
There will be subtitles in English and Chinese. An elaborate stage
setting and melodic French songs revive the fairytale world of the
otherworldly but very true-to-life little prince. All the lyrics are
faithful to the original lines in the novel, published in 1943.
"Le Petit Prince" ("The Little Prince") is French aviator Antoine de
Saint-Exupery's most famous novel, which he wrote in the United States
while renting the Bevin House in New York on Long Island. The novel
includes a number of Saint-Exupery's charming drawings, which are
reproduced in most versions.
On the surface a children's book, it shows how different adults are from
children. In the story pilot Saint-Exupery tells of his being downed in
the Sahara Desert, thousands of kilometers away from human habitation -
there he meets a young extraterrestrial prince.
The little prince lives alone on a house-sized asteroid, B612, which has
three volcanoes and a rose. He spends his days tending for his vulnerable
flower, while pulling out the baobab trees that are constantly trying to
take root.
One day he leaves to see what the rest of the universe is like, and
visits several other asteroids (numbered from 325 to 330), each of which
is inhabited by an adult who is foolish in his own way, such as the
drunkard/tippler who drinks to forget that he is ashamed of drinking and
the businessman who is always busy counting the stars he thinks he owns.
He also meets the King, Conceited Man, Lamplighter and Geographer, all
with their own flaws. He then meets and tames a fox, who explains to the
prince that his rose is unique and special, because it is the one that he
loves.
In the conversations between the prince and the fox, the author reveals
his own views about the follies of mankind and the simple truths that
people seem to forget as they grow older.
"As many say, the fable tells the love story between the little prince
and his rose. I think the meaning of the book is so much deeper than
love," says translator Ma Zhencheng, who first translated the novel into
Chinese more than 20 years ago. "The rose symbolizes not only love, but
also everything that you are devoted to, such as your home, your nation,
the earth and civilization. I've read and translated other novels by
Saint-Exupery, which seldom focus on romance between man and woman but on
broader love of the mother and homeland.
"Saint-Exupery's language is simple and clear, but it reaches the most
important problems of human beings," Ma adds. "The six planets that the
little prince has visited represent the characters and living conditions
of human beings - greed, vanity, power, addictions, possession of useless
things and the increasingly speeding pace of life. And today history has
proved his writings and worries true."
Date: July 11-23, 7:15pm
Venue: Shanghai Oriental Arts Center, 425 Dingxiang Rd, Pudong
Tickets: 180-1,600 yuan
Tel: 962-288
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Friday, September 5, 2008
Free Chinese Lesson - "Lives of Others" director supports Cruise
ENTERTAINMENT / Movies
"Lives of Others" director supports Cruise
(Reuters)
Updated: 2007-07-04 08:22
Tom Cruise at a football game in Landover, Maryland, September 11, 2006.
Makers of a movie about a failed plot to kill Adolf Hitler will be barred
from filming at a German memorial site, but not because star Cruise is a
Scientologist, the Finance Ministry said on Monday.[Reuters]
COLOGNE, Germany (Hollywood Reporter) - The Oscar-winning director of the
German film "The Lives of Others" has supported Tom Cruise's bid to play
a would-be Hitler assassin in the movie "Valkyrie."
The project, set to begin shooting this month at Germany's Studio
Babelsberg, has been surrounded by controversy. German politicians have
criticized the decision to cast Cruise in the lead role because he is a
Scientologist, a religion seen in Germany as a dangerous sect.
After a long back and forth, the German authorities also banned Cruise
and director Bryan Singer from shooting "Valkyrie" on location at the
Bendlerblock memorial in Berlin. It is the actual location where Claus
von Stauffenberg and his fellow conspirators hatched the plot to
assassinate Hitler with a bomb hidden in a briefcase. It is also where
Stauffenberg and the other plotters were executed after the attempt
failed.
But in a long op-ed piece for German daily the Frankfurter Allgemeine
Zeitung on Tuesday, "Lives" director Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck
said Cruise was the ideal person to play one of Germany's few Hitler-era
heroes.
"Tom Cruise is the most successful of all the (Hollywood) superstars,"
Henckel von Donnersmarck wrote. "His superstar light will illuminate this
rare shining moment in the darkest chapter of our history. In doing so,
he will do more to improve Germany's international image than 10 soccer
World Cups could."
Henckel von Donnersmarck said the story of Stauffenberg is almost unknown
outside of Germany and that his country should be grateful a star with
Cruise's drawing power has chosen it as his next project.
Henckel von Donnersmarck is well acquainted with the delicate politics of
adapting German history. His Stasi drama "The Lives of Others" was an
international box office hit, but he had to defend every casting and
wardrobe decision made in adapting the reality of communist East Berlin
to the screen. He was rewarded for his efforts with the foreign-language
Oscar earlier this year.
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Learn Chinese online - Jennifer Lopez dumps her 'diva' J Lo title
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Actress/singer Jennifer Lopez has discarded the famous performing name of
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The 37-year-old, known for being difficult and bad-tempered, said her
alter ego was meant to be enjoyable but "got out of control and really
crazy".
"That's all gone with the ridiculous stories about me throwing tantrums
and insisting on Egyptian sheets. That's all firmly in my past," The Sun
quoted her, as saying.
The beauty also revealed her plans to undertake more serious film roles
and music projects.
The Hispanic singer, who earned millions from romantic comedies like Maid
in Manhattan and The Wedding Planner, also talked about how money, as an
incentive, made you an "empty shallow person."
"If you focus on the money you're not going to get anywhere. If money is
your motivation you're going to be such an empty shallow person," she
said.
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Thursday, September 4, 2008
Chinese Studies - Celebrate the Fourth of July in Beijing
CITYLIFE / Weekend & Holiday
Celebrate the Fourth of July in Beijing
By Tabitha Messick (chinadaily.com.cn)
Updated: 2007-06-29 15:04
On July 4, American expats in Beijing may reminisce about their family
and friends back home enjoying barbecues, picnics, fireworks and parades
to celebrate the anniversary of the United State's independence from
Britain. Here are some ways that Americans abroad can celebrate this
holiday in China's capital city.
Since the fourth of July generally goes unobserved around the world,
don't be surprised it's not a big deal in China. Use this opportunity to
get locals involved to show them about this important American holiday
and tradition.
American restaurants and bars
Bars and restaurants with an American theme will most likely be hosting
some type of July 4th festivities. Below are the most frequent meeting
spots for US expats:
Hard Rock Caf��
#8 North Dongsanhuan Road, Chaoyang District
Landmark Hotel
6590-6688
Steak and Eggs (Xi Lai Zhong)
Xiushui Nan Jie 5, Chaoyang East
6592-8088
Tim's Texas BBQ
44 Guanghua Lu, next to Brazilian Embassy
6532-5905
(accepts international credit cards)
Grandma's Kitchen
A11, Xiushui Nan Jie, Chaoyang District
6503-2893
Contact local U.S. Embassy
Many American embassies around the world will celebrate the July 4
holiday. Last year on the 230th anniversary of American independence, the
US embassy in Beijing hosted an event that included a speech by Clark
Randt Jr, the US ambassador to China, at the China World Hotel in
Beijing. Though the US embassy in Beijing will be closed on July 4th this
year, the American Chamber of Commerce in Beijing will host an
Independence Day barbecue on Saturday, June 30. Details are below.
Red, White & BBQ - Independence Day party
3-9:30 PM, Saturday, June 30
Yan Oasis Hotel & Resort located at No.8 Yanshuo Road, Yan Jiao Economic
zone
Join the chamber for hot dogs, hamburgers, soft drinks, beer and other
tasty foods, plus two bands, children's games, a watermelon-eating
contest, an indoor swimming pool, a lucky draw and a fireworks finale
TICKETS
150* yuan - AmCham and ACC members
200 yuan - non-members
100 yuan - Children aged 5 to 12.
Children under 5 get in free.
*Note: Tickets are only available in advance and photo identification is
required. None will be sold at the door.
To purchase tickets or receive more information, contact Vivien Wei at
vivianwei@amcham-china.org.cn or visit, www.amcham-china.org.cn/, for
ticket order form.
More information is available at
http://www.amchamchina.org.cn/amcham/show/ pdfs/R&Wposter.pdf.
Message boards and Chat rooms
Connecting with others via the Internet is convenient way to get
information and ideas about how to celebrate Independence Day with
others. There are many Message boards and chat rooms to help link you
with those living nearby. You can discuss options, events and set up
meeting times.
The Internet is also a good way to communicate with friends and family at
home. Arranging a time to talk with those in the US will help you
celebrate with them "in person."
Host your own celebration
If you cannot find a suitable celebration around you, consider hosting
your own party. Invite your expat friends and neighbors to enjoy the
holiday with you and teach them about your culture. You can have a
barbecue, ice cream sundaes, a mini fireworks show or some type of music
and dance that reflects American way of life. Potluck dinners are always
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Wednesday, September 3, 2008
Chinese School - Katherine Heigl to wed at Christmas
ENTERTAINMENT / Movies
Katherine Heigl to wed at Christmas
(WENN)
Updated: 2007-06-26 09:38
Katherine Heigl
Grey's Anatomy star Katherine Heigl is to wed her rocker fiance Josh
Kelley two days before Christmas, according to reports.
Friends say the actress chose the date in the middle of a hiatus from the
medical drama, so she could get used to being Mrs. Kelley and take time
to plan and prepare for her big day.
An insider tells Life & Style magazine, "She'll be in the middle of a
holiday break for her show, and she'll still have enough time after for a
short honeymoon.
"Everyone is already so full of cheer just before Christmas, so to throw
in a wedding at that time--she just loved the idea.
"Her idea is to get married under this snow-covered tent at her property
with Josh in rural Utah. She wants glamour, so the dress is upscale. But
she also wanted everything to feel down-to-earth, natural and beautiful."
The couple met on the set of Kelley's "Only You" music video, in which
she played his sweetheart, in 2005.
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Learn Chinese online - Rakish and raw in skin-deep creations
ENTERTAINMENT / Music/Theater
Rakish and raw in skin-deep creations
(The Dominion Post)
Updated: 2007-06-22 15:01
Powdered wigs, lace and intricate painting transformed models Dion and
Emma into Lord Byron and one of his many lovers for the New Zealand Body
Art Awards.
The entry, by Carmel McCormick from Auckland's North Shore, claimed the
supreme trophy at the awards in Auckland on Saturday.
Art was brought to walking, talking, crawling, creeping and dancing life
at the North Shore Events Centre, for the second annual New Zealand Body
Art Awards.
The categories included fantasy, masquerade and rubber and prosthetic. An
entry called Skinned Alive, by artist Jennifer Savannah, of Matakana near
Warkworth, featured Adrian Savannah, right, as a devil-like figure.
Event director Mem Bourke said Weta Workshop-designed trophies were won
by eight category winners, including Nicole Heydenryk from Wellington in
the creature section.
"But my favourite was the World of Fluorescent Illusion section. It
really rocked."
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Tuesday, September 2, 2008
Pnyin - Enjoy a rainbow life
CITYLIFE / Odds & Ends
Enjoy a rainbow life
(chinadaily.com.cn)
Updated: 2007-06-20 09:33
Office people in China face tremendous pressure from work, both
physically and psychologically. Yet despite the stress, a group of people
have emerged who know how to balance work and life. They nickname
themselves "Rainbow Masses". They make a summary of their living habits
and match them with the seven colors of a rainbow. Here they are and find
out how you too can become a "Rainbow Person".
Red: Improve work efficiency, avoid working overtime and have a relaxing
weekend.
High work efficiency allows people to have more time for fun. To improve
work efficiency, a plan is necessary. Don't make the plan too full and be
flexible for changes. Arrange similar duties together to avoid wasting
time changing back and forth. Form the habit of using short periods of
time to look after trivial things. You can also save time through
communication. Call someone when you have his phone number instead of
sending him messages through MSN or QQ.
Having a relaxed weekend enables people to face the challenges of a new
week full of energy. You can do many things like going to the spa,
visiting hair or beauty salons, watching movies, playing badminton or
table-tennis. These activities help people relax without exhausting their
energy.
Orange: Have enough sleep and improve sleep quality.
Go to bed before 12am, because it's said the period between 12am and 3am
is the best time for sleep. Play some light music and have a cup of warm
milk, which helps some people fall asleep faster.
Don't keep too many green plants in bedroom, because they consume oxygen
at night, thus leaving less oxygen for people when they sleep. Also,
don't drink too much water before going to bed, because too much water
will cause people to get up to go to toilet during the night.
Yellow: Say no to unhealthy fast food and say no to junk food.
Unhealthy foods like instant noodles, instant coffee, and fast food
restaurants seldom appear in a Rainbow Person's house. A Rainbow Person
may also get tired or lazy so he doesn't want to spend much energy and
time on cooking. To deal with such situation, he keeps food like eggs,
cucumbers and tomatoes at home, which is healthy, nutritional and also
easy to eat.
Stay away from junk food. Drink green tea instead of carbonated soft
drinks. Replace potato chips with fruits while watching TV.
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Chinese Tutor - Sharon Stone: 'Wrinkles Are Lucky'
ENTERTAINMENT / Movies
Sharon Stone: 'Wrinkles Are Lucky'
(Shanghaidaily.com)
Updated: 2007-06-17 10:26
Sharon Stone attends the press conference at Shanghai Grand Theater on
Thursday. [thefirst.cn]
Sharon Stone is a lot more than just an ambassador for Dior, she's also a
champion of the poor, speaks a lot of sense and at 49-years-old the
mother of three is still drop-dead-gorgeous writes Michelle Zhang.
DIOR spokeswoman Sharon Stone is obviously not up to the job. The "Basic
Instinct" sexpot is in town to attend the ongoing Shanghai Film Festival
and help Dior to promote "Capture Totale," the latest anti-aging skincare
product launched by the French cosmetics house.
However, during Thursday's press conference at Shanghai Grand Theater,
the 49-year-old surprised all when she was asked to provide advice on
combating aging.
"How can people be so selfish and obsessed with that 'I'm getting
older'?" she asks, emotionally. "Buy yourself some face cream, go
somewhere and do something nice for someone else. There are hundreds of
millions people who are dying because no one cares about them. They would
be so happy and grateful to be able to age."
"There is one child dying every minute of Aids. One out of every eight
women will get breast cancer. There are people all over the world who are
suffering from diseases while you are spending your life worrying about a
wrinkle. It's ridiculous!"
She continues: "You should realize how lucky you are when you have a
wrinkle. That means you are alive. That means you have laughed and cried,
you have emotions because someone cares about you and you care about
someone. When you have time to look in the mirror - that's extra time,
use it wisely."
Her words won the seductively radiant beauty floods of applause. Sitting
on the couch in an elegant posture, the charming lady is not only
emotional but also amiable, not as icy or arrogant as people expected her
to be. She is beautiful and Stone perfectly epitomizes the saying that
things only get better with age.
"I don't think when I was a young girl that I felt I was beautiful or I
was confident with myself," she says. "It was at a certain point I
started to accept myself and feel comfortable with myself. You have to
realize that today is the best time you will ever going to have again.
"Nobody is perfect. I am a big pile of flaws, which makes me fantastic,"
she says, laughing. "Sometimes it is the flaw that makes us love another
person. At this point of my life, I come to realize that I'm really happy
with my great parts. What's the point in not liking yourself? You are not
going to get another you."
The intelligent woman believes in moderation. Her suggestion for how to
live a healthy life is to do things that makes you feel "generally good":
"It's important to eat healthily but I eat candy bars as well. I drink
wine, but not a bottle. I don't take hard liquor because I don't feel
good with it. I do exercise to the amount that makes me feel good."
Stone adopted her first son Roan in 2000 and now she is a mother of
three. She affectionately calls them the three "little Geminis." A
glorious star like her, she describes her single working mother life as
"truly exhausting."
"I have all the same worries and concerns about my life and my children
as you do," she explains. "How am I going to send them to college? Do the
antibiotics I gave to my sons have any side effects?"
And it's never too late to find a husband or a boyfriend, "even if you
were 70," according to her. After two failed marriage, the attractive
lady says that the best qualities she finds in a man are kindness and
thoughtfulness.
"When we were young, we might want men to be exciting but as we grow up,
we recognize the importance of being kind and consistent," she explains.
"To me, it is sweet when a guy shows up with orange juice in the morning,
when he is willing to help me with the house works and ask me to take a
bath."
Often described as a "symbol of sex," Stone goes on to tell about her
understanding of sex.
"Sex is a complicated issue," she says after a short period of thinking.
"First of all, it is communication. It is a way for us to communicate
with each other, and it should be a communication of kindness, tenderness
and care.
"It is not just an image thing. It is a possibility for greater
understanding of what the relationship means to one another."
It is the blonde's first visit to China and she is utterly excited about
what she has seen and experienced in Shanghai. Everything here is new to
her.
She believes that there is no doubt that celebrity involvement in
philanthropy can have many positive effects. She hosted an auction in
Cannes during the recent Cannes Film Festival and helped to raise US$7
millions for the American Foundation for Aids Research.
She then joined 40,000 partygoers at Vienna's Life Ball to raise money
for a program called "Treat Asia."
"We have raised there about US$1 million and all the funds will be sent
to Asia for Aids research," she explains. "I'm very proud to have done
that. We have noticed that there is a growing Aids community in Asia
nowadays and it's very important for people to be illuminated about the
crisis.
"It's also enormously important that we come together and be proactive
and intelligent," she continues. " For some reasons, I believe Asia will
be the area with great science, technology and intelligence to make a
breakthrough.
"I have been traveling all over the world. Only Egypt and China have such
long histories but China has the super advancement as well. There is
something that touches me intellectually and emotionally. I feel
compelled to imagine that something great could happen here."
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Monday, September 1, 2008
Chinese Pinyin - Hilton's parents visit, breeze past line
ENTERTAINMENT / Gossip
Hilton's parents visit, breeze past line
(AP)
Updated: 2007-06-13 11:32
Kathy Hilton waves as she and her husband Rick leave the Twin Towers jail
facility after visiting their daughter Paris Hilton Tuesday, June 12,
2007, in Los Angeles. [AP]
The parents of Paris Hilton didn't have to wait long to visit their
daughter Tuesday, raising more questions of whether the hotel heiress was
receiving special treatment. The Hiltons breezed past some waiting in
line for hours to see loved ones.
After her visit, Kathy Hilton said her daughter wants "just to do her
time and get on." She added her daughter has not had much sleep.
The visit angered some others who were waiting to see inmates. Shatani
Alverson, 23, said she was hustled out of the visiting room at the Twin
Towers Correctional Facility moments after her husband walked in because
of the Hiltons. She was told to come back after lunch.
Alvina Floyd waited more than four hours to visit her fiance. It normally
takes two, and Floyd, 20, blamed the Hiltons for the delay.
"I have to be at work later," she said. "I can't wait here all day."
Steve Whitmore, a sheriff's spokesman, deflected criticism about the
Hiltons' visit. He said it was routine for high-profile inmates to
receive visitors during lunch, a time when the visiting room is normally
cleared out and closed.
The visit came shortly after the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors
ordered Sheriff Lee Baca to respond by next week to allegations of
favoritism for reassigning Hilton to house arrest after she was sent to
jail for violating probation. At the time, Baca cited an undisclosed
medical condition as the reason for making the decision.
The 26-year-old celebrity was later ordered back to jail. She was sent to
a medical ward, where sheriff's officials said it costs $1,109.78 a day
to house a female inmate compared to $99.64 a day in the general
population.
County Supervisor Don Knabe said he and his colleagues had received many
angry e-mails from people who believed Baca was treating the heiress
better than other sick and mentally ill inmates.
Mary Tiedeman, who regularly visits the jails as a monitor for the ACLU,
said the area where Hilton was being housed was usually reserved for
high-security inmates or those worse off than Hilton has appeared.
"I don't know what her health issue is, but you have got to have a pretty
intense medical or mental health problem to be in that part of the jail,"
she said.
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Chinese Pinyin - DiCaprio's girlfriend dismisses marriage
ENTERTAINMENT / Gossip
DiCaprio's girlfriend dismisses marriage
(WENN)
Updated: 2007-06-11 08:59
Leonardo DiCaprio
Leonardo DiCaprio's supermodel girlfriend has put an end to speculation
the couple plans to wed, by claiming she doesn't believe in marriage.
Israeli beauty Bar Rafaeli, who has been dating the Titanic star for over
a year, also reveals she isn't pregnant, despite reports to the contrary.
She tells the Italian edition of Vanity Fair, "The truth is I don't
believe in marriage. A couple doesn't need a contract."
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