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* Simplified Character Dictionaries
o Beginners
o Intermediate/Advanced
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o Classical Chinese

* Traditional Character Dictionaries
o Beginners




[top]Simplified Character Dictionaries



[top]Beginners


* Concise English-Chinese Chinese English Dictionary (精选英汉汉英词典)
The Commercial Press & Oxford University Press


[top]Intermediate/Advanced


* 现代汉语词典－汉英双语 (The Contemporary Chinese Dictionary- Chinese English
Edition)
Foreign Language Teaching and Research Press
* 应用汉语词典
Has nice usage examples and comparison between similar words
* 多功能学生成语词典
Chengyu dictionary targeted towards Chinese elementary and high school students. An extensive
index allows you to find all chengyu's that have a particular character, regardless of the
position of the character in the chengyu. Each chengyu entry has example sentences, and a list
of antonym and synonym chengyu's.


[top]Synonym/Antonym Dictionaries


* 学生同义词反义词辨析词典
* 现代汉语同义词词典


[top]Specialized Dictionaries


* 汉英逆引词典 (A Reverse Chinese-English Dictionary)
The Commercial Press
* 现代汉语常用词用法词典
中国书籍出版社


[top]Classical Chinese


* 古汉语常用字字典
Character-based dictionary
* 古代汉语词典
Word-based dictionary
* 学生常用古代汉语词典
Word-based dictionary


[top]Traditional Character Dictionaries



[top]Beginners


* Far East 3000 Chinese Character Dictionary (遠東漢字三千字典)
The Far East Book Co., Ltd.

* Far East Pinyin Chinese-English Dictionary (遠東拼音漢英辭典)
The Far East Book Co., Ltd.



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Created by muyongshi, 4th October 2007 at 09:42 PM
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View Poll Results: Expats working in China, what is your monthly salary in RMB?
< RMB 5,000 2 7.41%
RMB 5,000 - 9,999 11 40.74%
RMB 10,000 - 19,999 5 18.52%
RMB 20,000 - 29,999 3 11.11%
RMB 30,000 - 39,999 0 0%
RMB 40,000 - 49,999 1 3.70%
>= RMB 50,000 5 18.52%
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So can somebody teach me how to turn this post into a poll?

Ask an administrator nicely An anonymous poll has now been added. Let me know if you'd like any
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I think you can also do it via the 'add a poll' option under the thread tools drop down. Not sure
though. It won't be there now though as the poll has been added.










ABCinChina -

Thanks guys!










cdn_in_bj -



Quote:

50K+ RMB per month is quite a lot of money to be made in China!! I wonder how much experience is
needed for a job like that and what someone could do with all that money??

Get into a management position in a multinational company, especially in sales. But being in sales
here does take a severe toll on ones health, not to mention moral values...

What do they do with "all that money"? They spend it on apartments, cars, 2nd wives, ie - pretty
much the same as what wealthy people do in the west.



Quote:

Personally, I am still in training for PCBs which are quite technical especially when I must learn
everything in Chinese. So I guess I should be satisfied with the 10K per month for now.

If you're not in a 1st-tier city you should be living very comfortably then. In any case, you are
considered a "high-income earner" by the government.










anonymoose -

Even if you have a high salary, it doesn't mean you always have to find something to 'do' with it.

I save probably about 80-90% of what I earn here, so that if/when I return to the UK, I can afford
to buy a house.










gougou -



Quote:

I save probably about 80-90% of what I earn here, so that if/when I return to the UK, I can afford
to buy a house

Is it possible to exchange that much now? I seem to remember that a while back, the maximum was
80%, and most people weren't even allowed that, but not sure whether that rule still exists. How
were you planning to repatriate your money?










venture160 -

Working here in Beijing some of my colleagues have told me that in the IT Industry (which I work
in) local Chinese in management positions at large foreign companies make 100K RMB a month. Of
course those are VP level positions, but there are allot of VP's in big companies.










ABCinChina -

Does anybody know of the true incremental tax rate for working in China? I searched Google here
and found that I should be taxed 20% of what I make. However, I get taxed only 6% of what I make.
I work for a Taiwan company.










cdn_in_bj -



Quote:

Does anybody know of the true incremental tax rate for working in China? I searched Google here
and found that I should be taxed 20% of what I make. However, I get taxed only 6% of what I make.
I work for a Taiwan company.

China uses a progressive tax scale for tax on salary income, so the 20% only applies to income
between 5000 and 20000 - income below 5000 is taxed at a lower rate, so your average tax rate will
be lower than 20%. Note that some forms of income are taxed differently and the following only
applies to salary income.

In addition, foreigners are exempt from paying tax on the first 4800 RMB of their monthly income.
After deducting the 4800 from your income, you are taxed on the remainder according to the
following scale:

_Monthly taxable income__Tax rate__Quick Deduction_
______0 <= i < 500________5%__________0________
____500 <= i < 2000______10%_________25________
___2000 <= i < 5000______15%________125________
___5000 <= i < 20000_____20%________375________
__20000 <= i < 40000_____25%_______1375________
__40000 <= i < 60000_____30%_______3375________
__60000 <= i < 80000_____35%_______6375________
__80000 <= i < 100000____40%______10375________
_100000 <= i____________45%______15375________

So, to calculate your tax paid, you do the following:

1) Take your monthly income - 4800, call that 'i'
2) See where 'i' falls in the table above ---> tax payable = i x (tax rate) - (quick deduction)

The "quick deduction" is a shortcut to adjust for the lower tax rates in the lower brackets (it
saves you from having to manually calculate the tax for the lower brackets).

For example, if your monthly income is 9500, then your tax would be calculated as follows:

1) i = 9500 - 4800 = 4700
2) From the table above, 4700 falls into the 15% tax bracket (15% is your incremental tax rate):

tax payable = (9500 - 4800) x 15% - 125 = 580

And your average tax rate would be 580/9500 = 6.1%










ABCinChina -

Cdn, thanks! That method is very precise.












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Strawberries513 -

"他们在潜意识里都不约而同地认为，中国话是世界上最难学的语言之一."

I have a general idea of what its supposed to mean, but the
在潜意识里都不约而同地认为 part is really confusing me (even though I know every one
of those words). If someone could explain this to me I would really appreciate it. And if this is
in the wrong forum I do apologize!!

谢谢



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yonglin -

hey strawberries,

not mean to sound rude or anything, but there are a lot of excellent dictionary services
recommended in thousands and thousands of threads on these forums.

For instance, the Chinese-tools chengyu dictionary returns



Quote:

不约而同 (bù yuē ér tóng)
take the same action or view without prior consultation / happen to coincide

as well as provides further explanation on usage and context.

My all-time favourite dict.cn returns



Quote:

潜意识: [ qián yì shi ]
1. subconsciousness
2. subconscious
3. unconscious
4. unconsciousness

and provides two example sentences.

dict.cn is particularly good because it does fuzzy matches if you don't know what characters in a
sentence form a particular word or expression.

Happy reading!










Strawberries513 -

uhhh... thanks but, thats not what I asked. I know what all those words mean. But I dont know the
meaning of the entire sentence. Thats not something a dictionary can help.










中国江苏唐勇 -

it means they all have a common think. on one in the team have the reason to form this idea .but
they have the common idea from the heart.no reason .they just think it is .
don 't need to argue .

my friend you can just think that .the sentence is the to tell you how this conclude come from
.any time you don't need to translate the sentence .just tell the conclude only .chinese is the
difficult language of the world .










cipher -

他们在潜意识里都不约而同地认为=Coincidentally, they all took it for granted that ?










rootfool -

OK.At first you can delete the word "不约而同地".So the sentence becomes : "They think
中国话是世界上最难学的语言之一 in subconcious." I think you can understand
this,right?
Then we can change the deleted word:They think it without prior consultion.
在这里，“不约而同地” 和“潜意识里”都是用来修饰“认为”的。
So if you know the
sentence:他们在潜意识里都认为，中国话是世界上最难学的语言之一." and
他们都不约而同地认为，中国话是世界上最难学的语言之一." I think it's easy
to know the original sentence.

Hope it helps and it's just a personal opinion.










studentyoung -



Quote:

"他们在潜意识里都不约而同地认为，中国话是世界上最难学的语言之一."

Subconsciously, they all happen to coincide (all agree without previous discussion) that Chinese
is one of the most difficult languages in the world.

Thanks!










roddy -

I don't like the sentence. How can you 认为 something in your 潜意识?










muyongshi -

I think it's subliminal messaging. We are all being told it's the hardest and so we treat it as
the hardest. Don't you think if a Chinese person who had never been told this studied English that
they would think English is the hardest. I am sick of hearing that Chinese is the HARDEST.
Unprovable. Hard... definitely but when we compare to a Chinese person learning English would they
not think it the other way around?????










studentyoung -



Quote:

"他们在潜意识里都不约而同地认为，中国话是世界上最难学的语言之一."



Quote:

How can you 认为 something in your 潜意识?

The sentence doesn't mean“they think something in their subconsciousness”, but “in their
subconsciousness, their idea is”.

Thanks!












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here2learn -

Woohoo!! Yes!!

"You go girl!"


Speaking of that one Korean guy, I have to say that in my few (3?) experiences knowing Korean guys
(not dating them, just meeting briefly or at work) I've found them to be WAY more forward than
most Chinese guys. They seem a lot more "western" in approach. They (I know I'm generalizing, but
it's 3 out of 3 for me) are more direct, seem more ..... sexual? passionate? don't know how to say
it... they give off a vibe that they're interested, immediately. Like, I can think, "Ok, I know
he's thinking of me in that way, at least a little" even if he didn't do or say anything... that's
more like what I'm used to in 'the west'. Easy to read, open, I think.

Let us know how it goes!

I'm excited for you, you'd better tell us some details!




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feebie -

yeah I have been dating some Chinese guys

nothing serious

just going for coffee/dinner etc


dated one guy who doesn't speak English.
it doesn't work.
as friends okay. but my Chinese is NOT good enough
to be in a relationship with someone who is not fluent in English

anyway I am finding the guys either mention

1. marriage and children, settling down
2. sex

on the first date

I get the impression many guys are looking for a wife

and there are also guys looking for casual sex.
they have the impression that western woman
are promiscuous

and there have been some Chinese guys who have been VERY direct with me
they have said do you wanna 做爱 , 上床

so this is starting to annoy the hell out of me
this stereotype that western women are promiscuous
and now I have guys who want me to introduce them to western women
I ask them "why do you want meet western women"

a friend told me they get the idea from hollywood.


Also the marriage guys. Yeah, now I know how my mum felt in the 1950's
so much pressure by society to get married.
everyone thinking their life will be sorted if they
have the house, kids, car and marriage.

I have met a really nice guy. We have lots in common, he is good looking, I like him. However,
maybe the fact that settling down and having a child is not high on my list of priorities might
put him off.

Then I have met guys with really limited social skills. This is a worldwide phenomena.

and the sleazy guys is a worldwide thing too I think

but they marriage thing is different than Australia. marriage is not that popular in Australia.
and in Australia they have to pay people to encourage them to have children. if you have a baby in
Australia they give you $6000










imron -

Is it up to $6,000 already? Last I heard it was only $5,000.










ipsi() -

Really? They pay you money in Aussie-land to have babies? No wonder we're loosing so many people...










yonglin -

I doubt monetary incentives are that powerful when it comes to baby-making. If they were, Sweden
would be flooded by babies, since you get more than $2k a year every year until the kid turns 18.
In addition to highly subsidized childcare.

I read a while back that raising a kid is a $200k affair anyway....










feebie -

Yonglin

you have a really good point


In Australia the former government started closing down schools etc and giving money to
individuals.

Maybe getting $5000/$6000 (or whatever it is) sounds good to an 18 yo. However, most people
realise that raising a child is much more expensive than that. That money will probably be spent
in the first year or 2.

The money will help prevent some people from adopting off their child or aborting because at least
they know there is some help for the first year. Might help people who are totally destitute be
able to set this up a bit better for a baby.

On the whole I think it is a bad idea.










feebie -

I have decided to leave Beijing

So I have dated quite a few guys

which I now classify in the following groups


1. workaholics
2. are in love with and obsessed with their car
3. want casual sex with an exotic foreigner
4. are too serious -- talking about marriage on the first date etc


I don't think this is any reflection on Beijing.
More a reflection on internet dating.
I can't believe I am doing internet dating (I would not do this in Sydney as it is easier for me
to meet people there)


I met one guy who I really like.

The trouble is he said "I can't imagine a Chinese guy going out with a white girl"

This comment made me feel quite bleak.

The other problem I have discovered is that I am taller than him

Apparently this is embarrassing for him (and for the girl).

I couldn't care less. Im more concerned about personality and character.

He told me "I wish you were a Chinese girl"

so I am not sure what that means.



Anyway it has been good being single in China.
I split with my Australian boyfriend in May last year.
This was good in a way. I got to meet more Chinese people and experience more.
When I was with him we just spent most of our time together at home.

So it has been fine being single for this year.

But now I feel I want to be in a relationship. A stable relationship.

Is this impossible for a white girl in China?

maybe too difficult


+ I want a stable relationship

Don't want to go out for 1 - 2 years then split
want something longer

I can imagine if I go out with a non-Australian passport holder
this could me terribly mafan later on.
might mean a break up.

So on this account I might just go back to Sydney.

I think it sounds stupid going back home just to because it is easy to meet someone.

But life is great but I want someone to share it with.

So I go in 3 months. My Chinese friends are now trying to find a white guy for me (ha ha).

I have talked to white guys who have told me they are instantly popular with women once they come
to China. Actually, my ex boyfriend had about 5 girls that liked him. So I think most of the white
guys are taken.

re: Chinese guys

Yeah because that is another thing. I am wondering about the culture gap. Whether it is possible
for white girls and Chinese guys.

I have an Asian friend who said she has many guys wanting to go out with a "nice little Asian
girl"(her description) and she can play that role. She said if it is night time and he says it is
daytime she will say "oh yes it is daytime". I am not sure if this is a widespread stereotype of
Asian women or not. One of my friends is a Chinese girl with white guys constantly hurting her but
she does not tell them the pain she is going through because she wants him to be happy. him to
love her. I said "if a person loves you they want to know how you really feel about things".
Anyway this is only 2 people. There I know a few Australian women who are similar.


So maybe I just need a Chinese Australian guy. ha ha

I will go find in Australia and bring him back to Beijing.










flameproof -



Quote:

The other problem I have discovered is that I am taller than him
Apparently this is embarrassing for him (and for the girl).

That reminds me on those really bad TV ads for "magic shoes" that always gets aired in Southern
China when the Hong Kong channel have a ad break, or when something sensitive is on. It adds 7cm
or so to ones hight.

To me the ad is really stupid and funny, but I guess it's a real concern for some.










Lu -

Feebie: there are western women with Chinese men. But they are few and far between, and I don't
know how they do it.










feebie -

Lu


how come? why do you say "I don't know how they do it"












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Xi'Er Dun -

你们好

Are there any PDF file texts/textbooks 课本/课文 for learning Chinese Dialects 中国方言?
Do such things exist for download from online?

I am also interested in Chinese audio-texts/stories/dialogues (as well as podcasts) for various
Chinese Dialects, ie. Shanghainese 上海话, Taiwanese 台语 （闽南语）, Fuzhouhua
福州话, Hakka (Kejia) 客家, etc. any of them for free download would be ideal (mp3 format
would be best).
Is there any audio podcast recordings of various Chinese Dialects, I want to hear some more spoken
non-Mandarin Chinese varieties that are downloadable for free.

However, to keep up with my study of Mandarin 普通话, I know there is such thing a Chinese
Podcast for free online, but is there any audio-texts available too?

谢谢您

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Dani_man -

In the Chinese language section in Beijing's Xidan bookstore, I've seen a Hakka dictionaries. It's
not really something you can learn from... It's a long long lists of Hakka words and their
equivalent in Chinese, and vice versa (as far as I remember), with a word written in international
pronunciation alphabet next to it to explain how to pronunce it. It seems to be more for linguists
then for someone who wants to learn Hakka.

But googling it gives a lot of results, why don't you try online learning?










csit -

For PDF files, how about these?

An Anglo-Chinese vocabulary of the Ningpo dialect (1876)
http://www.archive.org/details/anglo...voca00morruoft

A tonic dictionary of the Chinese language in the Canton dialect (1856)
http://www.archive.org/details/cyingcwcfanwan00williala

Chinese lessons for first year students in West China (1917)
http://www.archive.org/details/chine...nsfo00kilbuoft

There are others, too.
Go to archive.org and search for various combinations of chinese dialect/s












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How to search in Kingsoft Powerword 2007 characters by radicals? In older version (2002) there was
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FLYINGFEATHER2 -

Hi every one:

I wonder is there web sites that offer comparative analysis on Chinese poems and western poems.
Also, English web sites offer western poem analysis do and commentary!

Thank you very much.



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anticks -

Hey everyone.

Just a quick query. Im having problems knowing when to use these words at the right time.

Is there a general rule?

Hui and ke yi i mostly get. hui translates more to 'able' and 'ke yi' is more like 'can' in
general (correct me if im wrong)..

I tend to hear ''xing'' and bu ''xing'' alot though. I dont know if its just me but it seems to be
used mostly when giving a short answer but im not completely sure thats right.

Can anyone help me out on a general rule/translation of each.

Cheers



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rootfool -

会、行 and 可以 all have many meanings as a short anwser.For example:
会：
你会说普通话吗？会。can/be able to
你会做这道题吗？会。know.
你到时候会来吗？会。will.

可以：
我可以进来吗？可以。can(means permit sb do sth.)
你这次考得怎么样？还可以。not bad.
照说明书操作就可以了吗？可以了。it's right.
谁可以说出答案？我可以。can/be able to

行：
路很滑，你一个走行吗？行。can/be able to
让我先歇会儿再走，行吗？行。yes,you can.(permit)

hope it helps.
PS:If I had anything left out,please add them for anticks.










coolnicholas -

我觉得你应该把他们放进句子里来看它的意思，你单独拿出来会有很多不同�
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anticks -

i shouldve mentioned that i cant read chinese im a novice

is there a rough rule or translation for each. I was told you cant really just pick which one you
want to use because it wont alwayssound right.. although ke yi is the most flexible?










semantic nuance -

Perhaps this thread of 能, 會 will help a bit.

Hope it helps!










Lu -

There are numerous threads on hui, keyi and neng.
As to 行, as a short answer it means something like Sure, Fine, Will do, while 不行 means
something like No way. It's rather colloquial, while hui and keyi can also be used in writing.

I hope this helps!










anticks -

thanks all.. Put me on the right track for sure. So in conclusion...

NENG: To have the possibility/is to be physically able to do something
HUI: To know how to
KE YI: Allowed to/permission
XING: sure, fine, will do (bu xing = opposite/no way)










CyraSafia -

on most occasions, when you hear XING is independently used
you can simply replace it with OK.

HUI sometimes means know how to, but also use as will, or be going to

KE YI often mean allowed to, just like "may", but also can be used as "would you......please?"










DrZero -

For a long time I only knew "hui" as "know how to do." But then I would often hear people say
things like "Ta hui zou" and eventually I learned that it could also mean "going to do something."
So be careful of that; the word comes up very often in each of the meanings.

"Keyi" also comes up often in both senses. I initially only knew it as "can" which is common but
later I learned of its other use as "something is OK; it will do." I noticed that my wife's aunt
in China is very fond of saying "hai keyi" and "hai xing" in this latter sense.

Me: Ayi, ni de gongzuo zenmeyang?
Her: Hai xing.

Me: Tianqi tebie re. Ni juede re bu re?
Her: Hai keyi.

Me: Ni e le ma?
Her: Hai xing.










CyraSafia -

hehe
hai keyi & hai xing has a different meaning:
just so so
Chinese often say that












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PLEASE READ THIS FIRST and SEARCH THE THREAD BEFORE POSTING!
I've REORGANIZED everything and laid it out on this first post - I want to thank everyone who's
participated in this thread so far. They all threw in their two cents and made it possible to have
all this information in one place. I also would like to thank people who will post in the future
and help me update and add to this post. - and I'm sure that it's not perfect, but I hope it helps
lots of people get the CSC scholarship and make their way over to China. Once you make it out
here, give me call if you end up in Beijing. =]

Please READ THIS FIRST. I spend a lot of energy on this thread, and I really don't appreciate
people who are going to waste my time asking me questions already answered here.

LAST UPDATED: May 6, 2008

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Personally, I have experience that applies only to American citizens. However, there are number of
people here that have applied and received the CSC scholarship from many different countries. (For
EU applications, look towards the bottom.) I recommend that you post your experiences so far and
ask/encourage anyone else who has applied or is applying from your country to also post their
experiences. Also, this is a thread generally for the CSC Chinese Government scholarship for those
learning Chinese (not the scholarships for the Chinese Culture Research Fellowship, Teachers of
Chinese Language, Distinguished International Student, etc.).

---

I'll start with some basic information:
The (brand new) CSC website: http://csc.edu.cn/
However, it's only available in Chinese. It seems like they are working on a new English version
as well... but until then, we have access to the old English site, which can be found here:
http://www.csc.edu.cn:8080/en/
(Someone please contact me when this link no longer works, and a new English site replaces it.)
And here is where you download the applications (for now): (thank you, roddy! <3)
http://csc.edu.cn/Lianhua/Default.aspx?cid=26 - applications download page
http://csc.edu.cn/Lianhua/ecbb614863...8ec3355f.shtml - csc application download page

Normally, applicants are to apply though a partner/joint program of CSC. From what I remember,
they were almost all university programs that have China study abroad programs. I did a Google
search for "CSC joint scholarship program" once and two of the few listings I got for the US (just
so you can get an idea) were CSC-Georgetown University Fellowship Program and UMich-China
Scholarship Council Agreement. There has also been news that some Confucius Institutes have become
partners and will handle CSC applications for their students. Having a joint program to apply
though is the easiest and fastest method.

But most people in general and almost all of those in this forum are not part of any partner
organization or program and do not have the luxury of being able to apply through them - it is for
these individuals that this forum exists.

For those in the States - there's word that you an apply through your local embassy as your "joint
program." However, we've already discovered that there are still many embassies that are unaware
of the scholarship and wouldn't know what to do or who to forward you to if you asked about it. I
recommend people to first contact their local state/city embassy and follow their directions as
EACH embassy would have it's own deadlines and rules. (a special thank you shout out to jawshoowa).

---

Eligibility and basic information can be found here (for now):
http://www.csc.edu.cn:8080/en/readar...?articleid=572

And although I can't find where it's written, I definitely remember reading somewhere or being
told that you are NOT eligible if you are ALREADY in China. I have yet to hear of ANYONE already
in China who applied and got the scholarship.

---

When you call CSC and ask for someone who can speak English... don't be surprised if they put you
on hold for a long time before you realize that you've been hung up on... and don't be surprised
if it keeps happening over and over and over again. Once you get through, they know very little
anyway. Spend your time and energy on finding the right contact within the Chinese embassy of your
country.

Yes, that is what I said - Individual applicants must apply to the Chinese embassy of the country
of their CITIZENSHIP, regardless of their current locations. For example, If you are an American
in, say, Europe or Asia somewhere, you have to apply to a Chinese embassy in the States (either in
your home state/city or in Washington,D.C.). If you are an Indonesian citizen in America, you need
you apply to the Chinese embassy in Indonesia. You do NOT apply at the embassy of your citizenship
of whatever country you may currently be in. This is for a two main reasons:
1. This is a Chinese scholarship run by the Chinese Scholarship Council under China's Ministry of
Education. Non-Chinese embassies will not know anything about it or even know of it's existence.
It's like going to the shoe store to buy books; it doesn't make any sense.
2. Each country has it's own contract with the CSC - and these contracts are very different. Some
countries' citizens get their airfares covered, others' do not. Some countries can send more
students - others, only a handful. And each country's Chinese embassy will ONLY deal with the
citizens of whatever country it is in.

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None of us know the chances of getting a full/partial scholarship. All we know so far is that no
one has applied for the partial scholarship, and no one has yet been rejected from a full one. We
also don't know if you are automatically eligible for the partial scholarship if you don't get the
full. The same goes for the amount of time you apply for: 1 or 2 years. I applied for the full 2
year scholarship - and that's the one I got. And except for the scholarships awarded to those in
EU, we don't even know how many scholarships there are to be given out.

---

The CSC Application:

1. FILL IN ALL PARTS OF THE APPLICATION. LEAVE OUT NO SECTIONS!

2. STAY ON THE SAFE SIDE WHEN IT COMES TO MATERIALS/DOCUMENTS.

3. RECOMMENDING ORGANIZATION/PERSON
List an organization (or a person with a high position within one - president, dean, CEO, etc.).
The easiest would be your university (any school or educational institution) or company of
employment. As long as it's non-regilious and non-political, you should be fine. Have someone from
the "organization" write you a letter of recommendation on paper with the letterhead with a formal
heading. This recommendation doesn't necessarily need to be academic - it just needs to talk about
how you're a generally good person who would do well in China.

4. LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION
The application asks for two letters of recommendation. Be safe and include a third, if possible.
One of them will be from your organization/person that is recommending you (see above). Another
should be a personal recommendation that praises your character. The third should be an academic
one from a current or past teacher/professor. If you're no longer in school - one from a boss or
colleague on your work ethic, etc. should be good.

5. ADMISSION LETTER (More on this all the way by the bottom.)
Only attach one if you already applied to the school of your choice and received the admission
notice. If you didn't apply, just fill in your top three choices in the CSC application, and they
will choose and register for you.

6. TRANSCRIPTS/DIPLOMAS
Do not send your original diploma. That is not what they want. You only need to send an official
copy (or notarized copy of the original). The same goes for your transcript - and an unofficial
transcript is fine - which means you can just get a copy from your school and not be required to
have them send it directly to CSC).

7. PHYSICAL EXAM
You MUST complete the physical exam when you apply - because the CSC will also take care of part
of your visa process - which requires the physical exam. If you don't send it, you could get the
scholarship and then be disqualified because you didn't send all the required information - making
it impossible for them to help you with the visa - in which case, I honestly believe that they'll
just dump your application. (THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO EU APPLICATIONS.)
You can get it filled out by your family doctor, internist, or a doctor from a clinic. It usually
takes no more than 20 minutes. You don't need a "seal," as stated - the signature of the doctor
and a stamp with the doctor's name and address and contact information of the hospital/clinic is
fine. Those are done automatically anyway.
NEVER send the ORIGINAL Foreign Physical Examination Form with either the CSC application or your
visa application. Send notarized copies. You need to keep the ORIGINAL with you - treat it like
your passport.

8. STUDY PLAN
Without that study plan, you wont get the scholarship. It's an important part of your package and
your application would be incomplete without it.
It's basically a proposal/personal statement introducing yourself and explaining why you want to
learn Chinese. You should write about why you think learning Chinese is important, why you think
learning Chinese in China is important, and how you hope to use your new knowledge in the future.
Talking about Chinese culture and how China's becoming a major world power wouldn't hurt either.
Write as much as you can - the CSC application requires NO LESS THAN 200 words. I remember writing
a freaking book basically on why and how I'm so awesome, why all the goals/intentions of study I
have are so awesome, and why the Chinese government would become infinitely more awesome than it
already is by giving me the scholarship.

9. COPIES (another shout out to jawshoowa)
You don't need everything to be a notarized copy. The only things that need to be notarized are
documents that have only one original copy - like your diploma and the physical exam form. For
things like transcripts and letters of recommendation, for which there can be multiple originals,
just send multiple original copies. Make sure each copy of the letter of recommendation is
hand-signed by the recommender and that you get two unofficial copies of your transcript from your
school... The application form and study plan can just be regular photocopies. This will save you
a LOT of money, as notarization is expensive and can cost about $10 USD a page. For those who need
more information on getting notarized copies, please search this thread or jump to page 12.

10. Some loose ends:
- FILL OUT EVERY POSSIBLE PORTION OF THE APPLICATION!
- You are applying as a Chinese language student (not undergraduate, general scholar, etc.).
- You do not need any prior experience or education in Chinese to apply.
- None of us really know how this works - and we've all come to the conclusion that the embassies
don't really know either... and even the CSC people themselves don't seem to know. There isn't
really one specific thing or another that will screw up everything or make it a sure win. Just
follow the directions and stay on the safe side. Tons of people have gotten the scholarship
without applying through a joint CSC organization, and no one knows what was done wrong or right.

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APPLYING TO THE SCHOOL - Does it make a difference?
Attaching an admissions letter is not mandatory. Just listing your top choices on the scholarship
application is fine. If you get the scholarship, CSC will apply and register to the school chosen
for you. The chosen school will most likely be your first choice.
Although the application states that you might have a better chance if you apply beforehand, get
accepted, and send in your letter of admittance - we have no proof of this. Most people I know did
NOT send letters of admittance and they all got the scholarship.
Even though they encourage applicants to apply to their school of choice independently, I,
personally, HIGHLY recommend that you DO NOT apply yourself because it could potentially cause a
lot of confusion - and you will DEFINITELY end up having been registered twice at the school of
your choice (once by yourself and again by CSC), and you'll have to straighten it all out by
proving that they are both you and that you want to nullify the one YOU did - because only the one
that the CSC created can be used if you want to receive the scholarship. Save yourself the trouble
and just let them do it for you. =]

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CHOOSING A SCHOOL
This is not a post about comparing schools or getting advice on choosing a school. There are many
existing and very informative threads that you can search through at . Please be
aware that all posts regarding this subject will be removed.

---

DEADLINES/DATES
Deadlines are different depending on country/region, but everyone is notified around the same time
towards the end of May/beginning of June.
- USA Deadline - April 30 (If you are applying through a joint-program or your local Chinese
embassy, the deadline will be EARLIER (about two weeks) because they also are subject to this
deadline.)
- EU Deadline - March 30
- Those who know of definite deadlines of other countries (or if this information isn't entirely
correct), please PM me.

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AFTER YOU GET THE CSC SCHOLARSHIP:
Soon after you are notified that you got the scholarship, CSC will send you a package filled with
information on the school, an admission letter from that school, a letter reminding you that you
must register at the school between certain dates, and the Visa Application Form for Study in
China (JW201) already filled out by CSC. All you need to do is get the visa, book your flight, and
come to China.

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AFTER YOU GET TO CHINA:
Your school most probably has an airport pick-up service for new students. You'll have to find
that out yourself. Once you get to school, registration should be super easy after you make it
known that you are scholarship student. The system set up at the majority of the schools for CSC
scholarship winners works - and it works well.

TUITION/STIPEND
The CSC must have some in-house, direct system set up with their universities because the schools
know who the scholarship students are - and they are never asked to pay any kind of dorm, tuition,
or book fees... EVER. You can live like they don't really exist. They even register for you every
semester for how long you're covered under the scholarship. The only thing that I could think of
that I needed to pay for was the housing deposit which was like 200 RMB - and I got that back when
I moved out.
The monthly stipend works differently in each school - Qcash3 wrote about how he got an ATM card
for an account they set up for him with money deposited into it towards the end of each month -
although he never knows exactly when to expect it. I go to the International Students' office on
the 28th of each month and get my stipend in cold, hard cash after I sign my name on the CSC
Scholarship stipend list.
You don't have to worry about any of the bills yourself - they take care of all of it for you. You
just deal with the stipend money they give you - and you spend that however you want - but it is
definitely NOT enough to live a happy life in Beijing. You'll want to come with a bunch of saved
cash or another source of income - even if it's small, it'll be enough here because a dollar goes
a longggg way.
The stipend is 1100 RMB a month, and a normal person will blow that in about a week or so eating
out, exploring the city, buying daily necessities, partying - but it is POSSIBLE to live off just
that if you just stay home and study, eat at the cafeteria, and have no life. You'll definitely
need and want more than just the stipend - but it does help. So make sure you either have people
back at home to send you cash or you find a part-time job. Honestly, having a job while trying to
study sucks, but it helps you get out there and be exposed to more of the real, daily China.
You will also get an extra 600RMB when you first arrive to China - and for the months before
break/holiday, you will get your stipend for both that month's and the month that school is out.
Summer breaks are not included, to my knowledge. I might be wrong about that one.

HOUSING
The housing provided is the cheapest international students' accommodations the school offers.
Usually, it's a tiny room with two desks, two closets, and two beds - without a private bathroom
(you use a shared one with the rest of the floor). At some schools you can move to a nicer dorm,
even to a single - as long as you pay the difference. However, in ALL cases, if you decide to move
off-campus, you will lose the housing money altogether. They will not help you with your rent.

HEALTHCARE/INSURANCE
To those who are anal/paranoid about healthcare or have health problems that would/could/might
require frequents visits to a doctor, it is recommended (by Qcash3) that you buy supplementary
insurance before you come to China as the insurance that comes with the scholarship will only pay
for the school's insurance - which covers only the cheapest hospital around, which is usually the
clinic on campus.

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EU APPLICATIONS INFORMATION (thank you times infinity plus one, marcusat)

- The application period is from January to March 30th every year.
- There are 100 CSC scholarships awarded each year.
- Applicants are to take the Physical Examination (by August 10) only after getting the CSC
scholarship and receiving their school's admission notice and the visa application in the mail.
- A guarantor is not required.

---

Now to the juicy stuff:
DIRECT CONTACT INFORMATION and FINDING A GUARANTOR

I am willing to be a guarantor to anyone who needs one, but you must agree to be a guarantor for
someone else in the future. I also have the direct contact information for the person in charge of
the CSC scholarship at the Chinese Embassy in Washington, D.C. (and other local embassies that
definitely handle CSC applications) and the person who deals with all CSC scholarships for the EU,
Singapore, Philippines, and New Zealand. The Ultra Top Secret, Absolutely Brilliant, Effing Kick
Ass CSC Contact List is always being added to.

HOWEVER, none of this information will be made public for two main reasons:
1. I refuse to post up my name, phone number, and address in a public forum on the Internet. The
same goes for the CSC contacts. I feel that it's not only disrespectful to them but also
irresponsible of me to post that kind of information without permission. (I am in the process of
compiling a database of important/direct CSC contacts for other countries. If you have information
for your region, please PM me - this information will also be treated as sensitive.)
2. I am using this information as bait and incentive for people to post up their experiences to
add to our knowledge base in this thread. People have been finding ways to apply and get their
applications to the right people in many, many different ways - and each story makes it easier to
find out whats going on. Those who do not FIRST post up their experiences, insights, suggestions,
etc. will not be given any information. For first timers, start by telling us your story and
answering these questions: Where are you applying from? Are you currently in China? What did your
local state embassy say? Where and how did you get your papers notarized? Did you apply for your
school of choice beforehand? Where did you get your physical exam done? Anything about the process
you thought might be good for others to know about? Any hiccups you had to work through?

Also, you will request this information and it will be sent to you via private messaging (PM). New
members DO NOT have access to this feature until it is switched on by an admin - which I can
request for you. But know this, if the feature hasn't been turned on yet, that PROBABLY means that
you don't have enough posts to prove that you're not a spammer. In which case, you probably didn't
give us "your story/experiences" or interacted with the members of this thread enough for me or
others be able (or willing) to help you.

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I strongly encourage others who have received/applied for either a full or partial CSC scholarship
to share how they got theirs. The more information we have, the better chances we'll get at
learning how to systematically figure out how it all works.



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Loriquero -

Hi there.

I'm from Colombia; I Also got a CSC Scholarship, that was way simpler than my american/korean
forum partner ahead situation xD I was looking for scholarships in the website of the colombian
"DoE" aka icetex www.icetex.gov.co

The requeriments was so tedious to fill up, so many papers, letters, translations from spanish to
english... but in the end it worths

My schollarship was just "partial" It covers 1 year of mandarin study and 2 years of master degree
in Donghua University in Shanghai... The CSC every year offers 6 partial scholarships and 10
partial to Colombian students (this year was like that)... the people who got the complete
scholarship, have free accomodation and the monthly stipend; but they didn't tell nothing about
plane tickets.

I chose that University cause they were faster than any other university when I was sending
emails, besides that, the website was easy to navigate, and the pictures looked great :P

I'll arrive this week to Shanghai for further info PM me.

PS: sorry about my english










stheresa -

Hi there, also got a CSC scholarship. I have one question for you or anyone who won the
scholarship. Do the guys actually pick you up at the airport?
I really want to know that, if not to be prepared to get by myself to tsinghua daxue after my 11
pm arrival in beijing, pretty scary...
bye bye
steph










Lupita -

Hey!! I'm from Spain! I received this scholarship! And the process was exactly as you described
above... Haha... I know it's all a mess because my friends who got the scholarship last year
didn't know what to do... They just told me to be VERY patient and wait until I receive some news
about the Chinese Uni and this stuff...

By the veeeery end of July the Embassy of China in Spain gave me all the information about the BNU
(this is the Uni I wanted to attend, because I went there for a semester last year, from September
06 to January 07). I got my X visa and my flight (not included in the scholarship, as I'm European
xD)...

And now I'm ready to stay in China for a whole year, learn Chinese, travel and meet lots of people
xD!!!!!

I'll be arriving to Beijing on the 5th September with my friend Marta (she also has an account
here, aka Ursula).

^_^ ^_^










Loriquero -

Hi steph

I wrote a email to the international student office of my University in Shanghai, and they will
pick me up in the airport.

You should write them too :P

Regards.










simonlaing -

Hi Extrapages, nice post,

Thanks for giving us the down low. I tried with the Irish scholarship and was rejected. They only
have 2 a year I think. I didn't even know the US had these scholarships. How many did they give
out did you know?

Congrats on getting it. My European classmates had a great time of it , while I had to teach
english at night. I think my level would be different if I had had the scholarship.

Have fun,
SimoN










barb_punk -

hey guys!

i'm from the philippines and i got a full scholarship to study in bnu for a year. i was supposed
to apply for it last year but work and other stuff got in the way, so i had to wait until early
this year to apply. based on my experience, scholarship applications are rarely easy because it
takes a certain kind of dedication to get through all of the requirements (was it just me or was
the foreigner's physical exam a bit over the top?). although i had a relatively easy time compared
to extrapages.

first, i got the application materials from the china scholarship council (csc) website
(www.csc.edu.cn/en). it has all the requirements listed plus the soft copies of the forms to be
filled up. then i went to the chinese embassy and submitted all the requirements plus the
application form to the cultural attache (who was a super nice guy). after a week, the embassy
called me up to say that they have the official hard copy of the application form and that i need
to fill it up because that's what they're sending instead of the copy i downloaded off the site (i
just printed mine on plain a4 paper). the content is basically the same, only this official form
was printed on a nice green paper. they told me to follow up on the last week of may. this all
happened february 2007.

i followed up on my application during the last week of may but the people handling the
scholarship didn't have news. i called them again on june and the person who answered the phone
said that she doesn't know where my application is and that the people handling it flew back to
beijing and will return july. at that point, i was just hoping that they went to beijing on
official business (read: to fix my application and other peeps' too). when they haven't contacted
me yet mid-july, i assumed that my application wasn't considered and resigned myself to applying
again next year. finally, they called at the veeery end of july (looks like we had the same
experience, lupita) to tell me that i got the scholarship, to pick up my package from the embassy
and to fix my visa and the rest of my requirements asap. hahaha! so i've been running around
getting my stuff ready.

list of expenses incurred or to be incurred in the course of doing this application:
physical exam stuff (lab exams)
transportation costs (all that shuttling around...)
visa
plane ticket
taxes
insurance (although not sure whether to get one here or in china)

hope this info helps.

simon: the csc has an eu window for european students. you should definitely check that out.
they're giving out 100 full scholarships every year from 2007-2011.

loriquero: donghua uni looks interesting. tell us all about it when you get there.

cheers everyone!










Jamoldo -

If anyone wants to read something more negative, feel free to read about how I DIDN'T get the CSC
(some pitfalls to avoid, ie. I don't think my application was even read). Have to admit I did it
kind of half-heartedly... To those who did get it though congrats. I could have used a post like
that last year, but to those who don't have a clue (like I didn't) it's going to be one hell of a
helping hand.










Qcash3 -



Quote:

qcash. it would be awesome if you could write about how you got your scholarship under the "how i
got my csc scholarship" thread.

and this year, there are a bunch of people that got it, too... tell us how it all works! how do
they give you the stipend? will the school approach you about the tuition or is it something thats
never brought up as long as they know your a scholarship holder? is it, in fact, possible to take
the housing money and use that to live outside of the dorms if you choose to? what do you mean it
wasnt as organized as you would have liked? what was the worst? the best? tell us tell us!

Ok, my friend you got it. First thing, the way in which I got my scholarship was a little
different than the standard application process. One scholarship each year is awarded to my high
school Chinese teacher and she chooses one graduating senior in her Chinese class to award it to.
Although I did have to fill out the application, everything else was handled by my teacher. Sorry
to be of so little help in perhaps what is the most important part of the process. As for your
questions addressing the inner workings of the scholarship, that I can help with. Firstly, all of
my experiences are with Tsinghua University so I don't know if things will differ with other
schools. When you're awarded the scholarship, you will be mailed your visa application form and
some papers from the school you are going to stating when you should arrive and all that good
stuff. Take these papers and give them to the people who deal with housing arrangements on your
campus, from that point they will know that you are a scholarship student and apart from
requesting a small deposit (in my case 200元) they will trouble you no further about tuition and
housing fees. No, it is not possible to take the housing money and live off campus. The stipend is
given once a month, and I can't honestly say that there is any organized system for giving it. It
is given in the form of an ATM card where deposit money each month, but I can't say when they will
give you money each month. I received the card on October 15th, and they had deposited 2800元
instead of the normal 1100元. I supposed they were making up for the month of September's money
and the 600元 one-time "settling in stipend" that they give you. Every month until February I
received the money at a different time each month, so I was never really sure when it was going to
come. Generally they gave it to me around the 2nd Friday of each month if it was somewhat close to
the 15th (the 12th or 13th for example), but if it was like the 10th I would have to wait until
the next Friday. This isn't a foolproof system, because they changed it up some months, but it's
an approximation. The month of January they will give you a 2800元 stipend, and will not give you
one in February as you will be on vacation. When school started back in March, they gave the
stipend on March 1st and every month thereafter also on the 1st. Also, be sure to buy
supplementary insurance before you go, the scholarship will pay for you to have the school's
insurance, but the scholarship will only cover the cheapest hospital around. My biggest problem
with them is they tell you none of this before you go, you kinda have to experience it for
yourself and are unsure about things for awile.










xiaomoogle -

Does anyone know if you can apply for this if you're just going to be a language student?
I've looked at the website for Chinese Government Scholarship Program (EU) and where it tells you
details about applying it says:

4. A study or research plan written in Chinese or English (no less than 400 words).

well...I just want to learn Chinese. I'm not doing it as an extension of my degree....I may do an
MA at some point, but for now I will just be a language student, can I just leave that study plan
out?

Are all the people who got the scholarships on this thread undergradates or general scholars?
Was anyone from the UK?

I need some












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Yeah, but she has known all day what would happen otherwise, doesn't she? So she could have just
not let him go there in the first place.
Hm, I hoped for a satisfying explanation that would make me understand that actually it could only
have been that moment, but it seems I'm out of luck.



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skylee -

Speaking of weak points in the film, all HK audience would notice that there was no 皇后碼頭
in 尖沙嘴.










zotium -

it's a nice film, however the sex scenes are a bit overdone and the movie a bit long










laolee -

Lu, What I got from the ring scene was it was only at this point that Tang Wei finally realized
that Tony really loved her. See if this makes sense: In the opening scene, the first time the
audience sees them together, the quail egg diamond is mentioned. So, when she gets the diamond in
the end, we remember for her, that he remembered. This touched her heart, it wasn't crass greed at
all in my mind.










skylee -

Has anyone watched the mainland version? Does anyone know anyone who has? Anyone has any more
comments to share?










skylee -

This is one of the best scenes (very poor video, just watch the first 3 mins please) ->
http://v.mdbchina.com/detail/5122867/

How she acts, how he is moved ......

And here are the 1930's originals -

The sad version -> http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=IbQEBr...eature=related

The not-sad version -> http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=hxu8Kx...eature=related










muyongshi -

I have been debating about whether or not to see it (usually leaning towards seeing it) but that
short clip sealed the deal...as soon as I get a chance I'll be looking for it.










laolee -



Quote:

Has anyone watched the mainland version? Does anyone know anyone who has? Anyone has any more
comments to share?

Here is an article comparing the mainland vs overseas versions.

http://www.zonaeuropa.com/200711a.brief.htm#003 - English
http://www.nanfangdaily.com.cn/south...0711010454.asp - Chinese










muyongshi -

I almost bought it today but the lady in the store said the quality was really bad and they would
have a better one soon...










skylee -

The film has just won many golden horse awards, including best leading actor (Tony Leung), new
actor (Tang Wei), director (Ang Lee), adapted script, and best picture.

Chen Chong (Mrs Yi in the film) has won the best actress award for her performance in another film.












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toads -

Thanks to your diagnosis, I've managed to get it working in ubuntu by replacing every occurence of
g_thread_init(NULL); in the source with


Code:


if (!g_thread_supported())
g_thread_init(NULL);

and it seems to have fixed the problem after recompiling (found this by googling). Everything now
seems to be working great, except that I get


Code:

** (sgc:15204): WARNING **: No sound from praat!

whenever I try to record. Not really sure how praat works so I don't know how to approach this one.



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Quote:


Originally Posted by imron at 10:43

presumably the problem your software has with Ubuntu will be solved at some point.




Quote:


Originally Posted by toads at 10:44

I've managed to get it working in ubuntu


See, that didn't take too long.










Skinkie -

http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/praat/download_linux.html


This is praat, it has a static binary, see if you can get audio out of it by default We use this
thing. I'll put your code into our git.










roddy -

Crosses fingers

Presumably someone will fix the problems with XP soon

/Crosses fingers.

I'm attaching the error report that XP tries to send to Microsoft on the offchance it means
anything to anyone. Greek to me.










toads -

When I do "record mono sound" in praat it works fine; I can play it back etc., but when I press
record in sgc it looks like it doesn't even try to record anything, it just immediately gives me
the above message, no 5 second wait or anything.










Skinkie -

It could be this compile uses OSS and praat could be using portaudio by now. You can check it out
by stracing the SGC app. (If it borks on a /dev/dsp)

Does playing audio work?










toads -

SGC plays sounds perfectly, and I can't find anything related to /dev/dsp in the strace. For what
it's worth I tried using both the current static praat binary from the website (4.6.12) and the
one from ubuntu's praat package (4.5.06); both have the same effect.










Skinkie -

Do you have a messenger like msn/icq/etc.? Otherwise mail me. There was one person on Linux having
a general sound card problem. But no sound from praat is the error when NULL is returned as
pointer.










roddy -

Quick bit of extra info. Doctor Watson log says:


Quote:

Application exception occurred:
App: C:\Program Files\SpeakGoodChinese\sgc.exe (pid=916)
When: 2007-8-6 @ 18:11:36.703
Exception number: c0000005 (access violation)

Event viewer says


Quote:

Faulting application sgc.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180,
fault address 0x00001016.

I tried to start SGC in safe mode, but it still crashed.










newyorkeric -

roddy,

Did you get a chance to try the program? Any thoughts on its effectiveness?

Has anyone else tried it?












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neostar77 -

hi all,

does anyone know where i can find the "coca cola song" of sally yeh's to listen? would anyone send
me a URL link?

secondly, there is a sally yeh song (maybe early 90's song) that is very heart breaking, sad and
soft. the words are somewhat like this (as i'm not chinese and can't really write) :

"tam fi na fo yatiee......hi ni na fo yatieeeeeeee..se ne ta fo...hi ni na fo yatieee...se ne..."

as you notice..the main word pronounced in that song is something like "yatieeeeeeee" with it
being stretched..and the beginning of the song has some nice music instruments for 20 secs before
she sings..

can someone send me a URL link to this song too to listen? thanks! appreciate anyone's help who
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skylee -

I don't see why you had to start a new thread when you had asked about the same songs in your old
thread here -> http://www. /showthread.php?t=18216










skylee -



Quote:


Originally Posted by neostar77

does anyone know where i can find the "coca cola song" of sally yeh's to listen? would anyone send
me a URL link?


Try this link -> http://www.51wma.com/sort/2_745_252673.html










neostar77 -

good! now i found the link to the 'always song:

now i need

1. the link to that song i typed for you in chinese on my first post. you've not given me that
link yet. can you? can someone read my first post up on this thread and kindly identify that song
for me? thanks!!

2. i need a full version link to this song. i love this song alot..can someone send me a full song
URL link on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8By2Q585T2I

thanks!!










neostar77 -

hi all,

can someone find me the URL links to hear these 2 songs below?

1. this might be sally yeh song or i might be wrong. im not chinese but the words are like this:

"tam fi na fo yatiee......hi ni na fo yatieeeeeeee..se ne ta fo...hi ni na fo yatieee...se ne..."

as you notice..the main word pronounced in that song is something like "yatieeeeeeee" with it
being stretched..and the beginning of the song has some nice music instruments for 20 secs before
she sings..

2. i want to hear a full version of this lovely song below. it has like around 7 mins, 12 secs for
full version i think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8By2Q585T2I

can someone help me and find me chinese url links to hear these songs? thanks. i appreciate any
help!!










neostar77 -

do you have a full version to that link u sent me? its the same song, but maybe a re-mix. could
you send me the original of that 'always' song?

secondly, you've still not identified the song in my first post above.










neostar77 -

hi all,

can someone send me a chinese URL link to hear fang lu's song in which he sings the english
version: nothing's gonna change my love for you..from george benson?

thanks..would appreciate any help of anyone who can send me a url link to hear that song.










gougou -

Merged a couple of threads as you seem to be enquiring about the same songs. Good luck with your
search!










neostar77 -

what happened to my "fang lu song" thread? how come i dont see it there anymore?










gougou -

It's #12 in here!












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