Saturday, November 15, 2008

Chinese Character - xing, hui and ke yi -








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anticks -

Hey everyone.

Just a quick query. Im having problems knowing when to use these words at the right time.

Is there a general rule?

Hui and ke yi i mostly get. hui translates more to 'able' and 'ke yi' is more like 'can' in
general (correct me if im wrong)..

I tend to hear ''xing'' and bu ''xing'' alot though. I dont know if its just me but it seems to be
used mostly when giving a short answer but im not completely sure thats right.

Can anyone help me out on a general rule/translation of each.

Cheers



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rootfool -

会、行 and 可以 all have many meanings as a short anwser.For example:
会:
你会说普通话吗?会。can/be able to
你会做这道题吗?会。know.
你到时候会来吗?会。will.

可以:
我可以进来吗?可以。can(means permit sb do sth.)
你这次考得怎么样?还可以。not bad.
照说明书操作就可以了吗?可以了。it's right.
谁可以说出答案?我可以。can/be able to

行:
路很滑,你一个走行吗?行。can/be able to
让我先歇会儿再走,行吗?行。yes,you can.(permit)

hope it helps.
PS:If I had anything left out,please add them for anticks.










coolnicholas -

我觉得你应该把他们放进句子里来看它的意思,你单独拿出来会有很多不同�
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anticks -

i shouldve mentioned that i cant read chinese im a novice

is there a rough rule or translation for each. I was told you cant really just pick which one you
want to use because it wont alwayssound right.. although ke yi is the most flexible?










semantic nuance -

Perhaps this thread of 能, 會 will help a bit.

Hope it helps!










Lu -

There are numerous threads on hui, keyi and neng.
As to 行, as a short answer it means something like Sure, Fine, Will do, while 不行 means
something like No way. It's rather colloquial, while hui and keyi can also be used in writing.

I hope this helps!










anticks -

thanks all.. Put me on the right track for sure. So in conclusion...

NENG: To have the possibility/is to be physically able to do something
HUI: To know how to
KE YI: Allowed to/permission
XING: sure, fine, will do (bu xing = opposite/no way)










CyraSafia -

on most occasions, when you hear XING is independently used
you can simply replace it with OK.

HUI sometimes means know how to, but also use as will, or be going to

KE YI often mean allowed to, just like "may", but also can be used as "would you......please?"










DrZero -

For a long time I only knew "hui" as "know how to do." But then I would often hear people say
things like "Ta hui zou" and eventually I learned that it could also mean "going to do something."
So be careful of that; the word comes up very often in each of the meanings.

"Keyi" also comes up often in both senses. I initially only knew it as "can" which is common but
later I learned of its other use as "something is OK; it will do." I noticed that my wife's aunt
in China is very fond of saying "hai keyi" and "hai xing" in this latter sense.

Me: Ayi, ni de gongzuo zenmeyang?
Her: Hai xing.

Me: Tianqi tebie re. Ni juede re bu re?
Her: Hai keyi.

Me: Ni e le ma?
Her: Hai xing.










CyraSafia -

hehe
hai keyi & hai xing has a different meaning:
just so so
Chinese often say that












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