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Strawberries513 -

"他们在潜意识里都不约而同地认为,中国话是世界上最难学的语言之一."

I have a general idea of what its supposed to mean, but the
在潜意识里都不约而同地认为 part is really confusing me (even though I know every one
of those words). If someone could explain this to me I would really appreciate it. And if this is
in the wrong forum I do apologize!!

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yonglin -

hey strawberries,

not mean to sound rude or anything, but there are a lot of excellent dictionary services
recommended in thousands and thousands of threads on these forums.

For instance, the Chinese-tools chengyu dictionary returns



Quote:

不约而同 (bù yuē ér tóng)
take the same action or view without prior consultation / happen to coincide

as well as provides further explanation on usage and context.

My all-time favourite dict.cn returns



Quote:

潜意识: [ qián yì shi ]
1. subconsciousness
2. subconscious
3. unconscious
4. unconsciousness

and provides two example sentences.

dict.cn is particularly good because it does fuzzy matches if you don't know what characters in a
sentence form a particular word or expression.

Happy reading!










Strawberries513 -

uhhh... thanks but, thats not what I asked. I know what all those words mean. But I dont know the
meaning of the entire sentence. Thats not something a dictionary can help.










中国江苏唐勇 -

it means they all have a common think. on one in the team have the reason to form this idea .but
they have the common idea from the heart.no reason .they just think it is .
don 't need to argue .

my friend you can just think that .the sentence is the to tell you how this conclude come from
.any time you don't need to translate the sentence .just tell the conclude only .chinese is the
difficult language of the world .










cipher -

他们在潜意识里都不约而同地认为=Coincidentally, they all took it for granted that ?










rootfool -

OK.At first you can delete the word "不约而同地".So the sentence becomes : "They think
中国话是世界上最难学的语言之一 in subconcious." I think you can understand
this,right?
Then we can change the deleted word:They think it without prior consultion.
在这里,“不约而同地” 和“潜意识里”都是用来修饰“认为”的。
So if you know the
sentence:他们在潜意识里都认为,中国话是世界上最难学的语言之一." and
他们都不约而同地认为,中国话是世界上最难学的语言之一." I think it's easy
to know the original sentence.

Hope it helps and it's just a personal opinion.










studentyoung -



Quote:

"他们在潜意识里都不约而同地认为,中国话是世界上最难学的语言之一."

Subconsciously, they all happen to coincide (all agree without previous discussion) that Chinese
is one of the most difficult languages in the world.

Thanks!










roddy -

I don't like the sentence. How can you 认为 something in your 潜意识?










muyongshi -

I think it's subliminal messaging. We are all being told it's the hardest and so we treat it as
the hardest. Don't you think if a Chinese person who had never been told this studied English that
they would think English is the hardest. I am sick of hearing that Chinese is the HARDEST.
Unprovable. Hard... definitely but when we compare to a Chinese person learning English would they
not think it the other way around?????










studentyoung -



Quote:

"他们在潜意识里都不约而同地认为,中国话是世界上最难学的语言之一."



Quote:

How can you 认为 something in your 潜意识?

The sentence doesn't mean“they think something in their subconsciousness”, but “in their
subconsciousness, their idea is”.

Thanks!












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